Die RB-Zuschauer wollen orakeln:
Zitat von AmicalolaOk, why have I not considered Oracle? That's not a rhetorical question; I really have to ask myself. Basically I decided early that I would not compete for early wonders because we need to get out of the woods first, the woods in this case being Fishless Island. And that remains true: we may justify a second city on the island, but not a third. Overseas settling will be costly - the continent will be teeming with barbs (I have seen the PB89 numbers, they're intimidating), and we need to ferry over military, settlers, workers, pre-build workboats and so on. Basically after hammers being relatively useless in the very early game we will suddenly need them galore.Zitat von Mjmd
Now, does the fact that everybody is on islands change that assessment? Uh, yes and no? I expect the islands of weaker leaders to be significantly juicier - e.g. allowing for a second city with food, maybe a third, grassland, unforested grain, stone or marble, precious metal, that kind of stuff. That might allow (or rather tempt?) a player to make a wonder run before crossing the straits. Candidates would be Ari (Monty for CoL ?), Jesper (HRR), shade? (Brennus)... Plemo with India I expect to be handicapped similarly to us but he may also compete if it doesn't fall early, as may Cornflakes if he goes for SH anyways.
So my plan has been to establish a firm foothold (or two) on the continent, beeline currency, and from there start caring about wonders. Metal Casting for the forges would be the next research target indeed and should be doable with currency and ICTR. Mjmd is right that I have not yet considered triremes sufficiently, and if we start next to the guy who oracled them we are in for some pain. (However I have to point out that you can't skip pottery)
But you are right that oracling MC would be rather fantastic for us. I guess 2pop whip forges can't really come too early. The GPP and temple would also be very conductive towards my monk economy plan. But I just can't see a world where we do it before sailing (and pottery), and with all the hammer demands of overseas settling I also expect it to be very difficult to chop out the wonder fast upon finishing the tech.
But if by the time when pottery is in no religion has fallen we may reconsider.
Rusten, do you have an opinion on that?
I can't see a world where we actually build Stonehenge. We're Inca, we're supposed to chop terraces. I am confident that Cornflakes - or otherwise some Myst starter - will go for it eventually. Neither am I interested in building research; our pseudo wealth before currency (and indeed afterwards as well) is failgold.